TDF- EP.9~ SHEA O'CONNELL

MY GOODNESS are you in for a treat with this episode! We are blessed to have Shea O'Connell join the podcast and bring high energy with wonderful advice! Shea's episode is definitely at top 3 of the series and you are soon to find out why. The dance coupled with the hilarious interview where we really let loose and talk about everything and nothing all at once is something you won't want to miss. Shea is a remarkable dancer and a gut busting funny human! A friend of the pod to all and a "for the audio listeners" extraordinaire. Make sure to follow them in and out of drag:

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Transcript

What’s up everybody, welcome back to another episode of TheDanceFloor. I'm your host, Ty Nelson, and I'm joined by another amazing uses… I'm actually… get it together, ***** I might even let that- I'm not getting paid for this. You wasting my time! No, I'm joking. I'm very happy to be here. Here we go. Ready? We're gonna take a deep breath. Everybody to another episode of TheDanceFloor. I'm Ty Nelson. You know me. We're here with another awesome human as all the humans have been in the series. Today we are joined by Shea O'Connell and I want to say Shea is a bombshell, Shea’s iconic, Shea just is Shea. Like I'm very thankful to have met Shea throughout my career within Virgin Voyages. You're gonna get to see them right now. Amazing. Hello, Shea. How are you? Hello. I'm great. Wow. 3 contracts. Yeah, right. This is #3 yeah. How many contracts have you done with Virgin 7…7? 7 technically. GURL?! Change careers! My God. What are you doing? Do something else. I'm thinking about it. BOR-ING! I’m joking I’m joking. Don't. Oh my God, don't keep that in because they're gonna fire me. What? They're gonna be like that? You know, I love Virgin Voyages. I'll. I'll think about it. Give me more jobs, please. I'll think about editing it out. No, but you've done, you've done, you've done everything. Happenings and then you..  have you done a little bit of shoreside or anything like that? No. But we have discussed potentially one day… I was trying to think about maybe doing like something off on shore side or maybe even doing company manager Yeah, yeah. But I have since learned that this is about the same as far as like pay goes and responsibility. It's just you just want to be a fool, you know? Yeah! You want to. What is it the…. God, what's that thing you do in the show, you filthy animal? See, I come and watch this show. Thank you. It's great. Don't be an *******. I come and watch. I can watch Shea’s show and and it's so hard to not lick your face every time I see you. Thank you so much. Don't lick your friends face. Don't lick your friends face even even if you really want to. Yeah! Real quick though, who are you, Shea? I knew it was going to be like this. Just nonsense, tomfoolery, shenanigans. What was the question? Just who are you? What's your what's your bio? What would you say somebody was like, well, we got a job for you, give us your bio. Well, let me tell you, yes, I'm from the UK. I'm a dancer, performer, drag artist, choreographer. Umm, and I just, yeah, I'm just, I'm just a creator. I I love to create, love to perform. I'm very happy to be on the ship in a show that in shows that I that I love. That's about it, really. I'm a cancer, so do without what you will. I mean, Ariana Grande is a cancer and and she and I are like, we're locked in at this point, literally. So if you could just call her so we can have her own second season of Yeah, let me just. This question is, is there a particular moment or event that kind of like shaped your artistry? Like I don't think I've, I actually, I haven't told this. I'll tell you which is fun. I started getting the dance when I was watching WWE. There was a wrestler named Booker T and he did the spinaroonie and I used to practice it all the time. Wait, I think I've seen this yeah. Where he like does he basically does a windmill. Yeah, I know. I think I'm seeing exactly what you're referencing in my brain. So I did that all the time thinking I was like wrestling or whatever and I'd be like Oh yeah. And that's. And then I saw that it was like I was on YouTube back when YouTube wasn't like the Internet wasn't real real and it was like “breaking what's break dancing?” And I started work, learning a little bit of breaking. And that, like, got me into dance. And like, from there, I, you know, evolved up and started taking class and whatnot. Yeah. But that was like, my moment. Is there a moment for you that, like, shaped your artistry or even just kind of pushed you, propelled you into the dance world or just your art? Yeah, art's more the vibe.Yeah, well, there's there's probably a few answers to that question because it's like, when did I start? Why did I start? Like so I started when I was 3, pushed into classes by my mom because she tried it with all of her kids and I'm the 4th and youngest child. Oh, OK. So she tried it with like all of us and just to really stick and it ended up sticking with me. So I just kept going and going and going for years and years and years. And then I feel like a lot of male identifying people, dancers will relate to this. I was so inspired by Michael Jackson, of course, like the King of Pop, the king of the dance. Just like, like just I was obsessed. So he really inspired for many years and then obviously he tried to be passed. There's still now just so much whether it's the right thing to be doing, listening to his music, the wrong thing. I mean, I don't know where I sit on it personally. I understand both sides of the coin completely. But as I started to to grow up and sort of tap more into my artistic side, and and and and.Through that, I suppose finding my queer side and and and being gay. You sort of then try and find other people to like, look out for and look up to. And I have to say, like, it was always like Gaga, like from, from like from maybe like 12 or 13. OK, Yeah. For context, I'm 27 and yeah, hearing Just Dance for the first time being like, Oh my God, what is this like being just so like, I need to know more. And just. Yeah, I've been on that ride ever since and she just is the epitome of art. Like she just does the thing. Like she can sing, she can dance, she can act. Right? She can write music, she can play all her instruments; she does everything. And that is just inspiration 100. Like whatever I'm feeling. I mean, that's what we did today. Yeah, we literally did a Gaga song today, Yeah, and it's a new one and it's one that sounds like it could be from back in 2009, though. Like, I like that song is very like. A return to form, but still, like, I'm 2025, I'm evolved. I'm new. Yeah. I'm still creating something new and not trying to, like, take what I did before and just regurgitate it for like, nostalgia purposes. Do you know what I mean? Absolutely. So yeah, I, I, yeah, she's number one. Honestly you being such a big fan of her is gonna play into a lot of like a helpful side of this once we talk about the dance itself, so I'm excited for that. Yes. Did that answer the question? Absolutely did. Yeah. I'm just talking ****. No, it's OK. You did great. On a little bit more specific, what is your background? So we you said that you were pushed in the dance in a way and not necessarily pushed more of a gentle. My mother, she never pushed. I didn't want to do. That's one thing I'll say about her is that she was always an encouraging parent not like a “you need to do this.” Yeah, for my that it was all what makes you happy. Do it. But one thing about her as well though, is that she would she would do that thing where she goes. “I know it is not great right now, but like just ride that wave and you'll get through to the other side.” I did every time. Like, every time I wanted to quit, yeah, I'd always be like, OK, fine. Let me just do this for one more - Come on, Mom. - term or whatever it was. Yeah. And she'd be right every time. And I'd hate her for that. I'd be like, you were right again. I feel that with my sister. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's the same way. She's like, literally never been wrong. And I was like “Fine.” Shout out to you, sis. I love you. They know best. They know best. But back you said background? Yeah, in a way, almost like collegiate or what was the dance that you did, whether it be like in college or in schooling? Just YouTube videos. It's like what really? Where did you gain your experience and knowledge? So yes, it was like very like foundations, ballet, tap, that sort of thing growing up and then sort of as I was like kind of getting really over that, 'cause I, I just, I just need to do something else. I need to be like doing like what I'm seeing in these music videos, like what I'm seeing Michael Jackson do, what I'm seeing, Gaga do, what I'm seeing, all of these like incredible, like pop musicians, like I was like, I need to, I need to be learning that. So I found it quite late. But when I was, yeah, when I was in school, maybe like 15 or 16, I started taking more like commercial, more like hip hop sort of styles. Yeah. Whether that be at school, after school, like on YouTube. It was a great resource to have. And then I really found it when I started doing musical theatre training. That's when it will kind of clicked for me. Yeah. And I was like, wait, this is what this is. If I'm gonna do this thing as a career, it needs to be like down this like very commercial route and kind of yeah. Now we're now we're in this moment. I'm doing these shows. I feel like those styles that I was wanting to do, I'm now doing in these shows. I feel that. You know, it's even the musical theater stuff. I mean, 'Around the World with the Diva’ is a very you could you could put it like in like a musical theater context, like whether it be like on Broadway… Off Broadway. Or you know what I'm saying? Like it's, it's, it's it lives in that world or, or maybe even like Untitled is like some of that choreo. Like I could see like in a music video or like it has those commercial foundations. It sort of blends the genres. Like it's, it's like a playground for like that style. Because we also get to create our own, which is great, right? I'd say it kind of sharpens your tool for when you, I like that work with like whatever artist you're looking forward to because you're already using the foundations like you're saying on the stage you're doing now. So it's basically like you're working out, you're doing your reps of what you are potentially going towards. Is the goal just Gaga? I feel like it has to be. Do you know? You know what? You know what it is? Of course it is. Yeah. But it's like, I love being the person that doesn't know what the video is gonna look like, what the song is gonna sound like before it comes out. Like, what's the tour gonna be like being dancer for her means I get all of that and granted, it would be a dream come true, but like I I live for the like. Like when Abracadabra came out the hell? We were all just like, wait, she's back. Like this is like a return to form, but again, in a way that's not like, oh, I'm just gonna like do this thing that sounds like something I did years ago, like it sounds like a song that was released in 2025. Like she, she really did her big one with that. But I but I would say that yes, of course. Gaga, Hello. I know you be. I know a friend of the pod. She's a friend of the pod. Yeah, I know you're I know you're watching this one. I like that take. We're both here. We're both here. Hire us both. Wait till you see the video. Fantastic. If you if you need like a you know what, if we're doing that, I would, I would cast you as like a Alejandro. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying though? Like the guy that played him in the video, I feel like that would be like a that's, that's your like… Yeah, that's what that's where I see Ty. I don't even need to do the rest of the he's like the Alejandra, right? I don't need to do the rest of the season. Put it in the comments below. Am I wrong? Tell me I'm wrong. Wait, I just I kind of ate. Kinda of ate that. Love that confidence. OK, so the Gaga thing, yeah, of course. But I don't ever want to be like, that's my goal because it doesn't happen. I'm still very happy with just being a fan. Like, honestly, like I'm happy to like, attend the tour. Observe and and, you know, not be in the thing, but obviously I will manifest it for the rest of my life. Absolutely, but I want to I want to do, I would love to do like there's more like artists in the UK that I'd love to work for like.There's this artist called Jesse Ware. OK, I've heard of Jesse Ware. And she probably have heard the music. If anything, you would have. She's fantastic. She and she has these great, like, stage shows and she only has like, you know, 4-6 dances at a time. But my God, is it like, I'll, I'll, I'll like send you some stuff. Yeah, please. She's great. She's got an album called What's Your Pleasure? Which was a lockdown album.There's also Charlie XCX, of course. I'm famously a brat. I'm an Angel. I'm a big Charlie head. So if she ever wanted dancers, it's not really something that she does anymore, though. Like her thing is very much I'm going to be on stage by myself and do the thing. But if she has backup dancers, it's like.. they're like clubbing and it's like like the the ‘Guess’ music video with Billie Eilish. They're all just in a house throwing underwear around. I mean, that's like the dream job. No, absolutely. So yes. Charlie XCX, also a friend of the pod. We have so many friends of the pod. Thank you so much. We both we both look good in our underwear. So you should hire us for for guests. Of course. I'm. Yeah, we do. Guess feature heads. I don't. I don't know. Yeah, many friends of the pod. Yeah.Thank you. Who else is listening to the pod? Oh **** Meryl Streep, the Pope? The Pope, the new Pope, even the new Pope. Yeah. How you doing? Even a couple older popes they've written in and they've said thanks for.. Deceased ones? No, no, no, just the oh, do they? I guess they do. Do they do they pass? I don't know. I think they do. So from beyond from beyond the grave. They work until they don’t and thats… .Did you wait, hold on, sorry, friends. Do you retire or do you just die? I think they go until they die. I think that's it. Like, wow, I actually I'm so uniformed. It's a bit it's a bit like the royal family, I suppose, in that respect, because like you don't, you don't just stop being the queen, right? You are queen until you pass away, right. Rest in pieces Yeah, I think it's the same. I think that's probably what it is. So yes, the deceased ones are right. Again, just to answer your question. OK, great. That's, that's great. This can be more so things that people have shared with you advice wise or things you've learned from people that you'd want to share with others. Or just something that really stuck with you, one obviously being what your mom has said, where it's like, get over that hump. Like things are, things are gonna have a lull time. And I really do appreciate that. That's already a great bit of knowledge. Is there anything else, maybe even a daily mantra that you commit to that something helps you really get through it? Other than that very awesome piece. Yeah, I got. OK, expectations are just premeditated resentments. It was a drag queen, a drag queen called Katya. And she said expectations are just premeditated resentments. And, and I, and I, it took me a sec because she even said she was like, give it a second, let it marinate because it, because it, it's a, it's a, it's a thinker. Then when you start to like actually let that marinate, Oh my God, I have let go of all expectations because: then when the thing does workout, I'm like “Great.” But if it doesn't workout, “Great too!” because I didn't make that expect like I, I now don't have a resentment that I that I that is my thing. So like… It's your fault if you, if you thought something was gonna go one way and it doesn't, that's out of your control. Yeah, but how you think about it, and you know what I mean? It's like the goal setting. It's like, yeah, yeah,you don’t necessarily need to have it as something that defines what's gonna happen to you. Yeah. You just enjoy life and let it come to you. And like, I really appreciate. I let you say that all the time. Expectations are just premeditated resentments. Booyah. When people get scared of dance and they're like, I can't dance. I'm like, you can. Yeah. And when you learn that fact, You Can Dance. It doesn't have to be. You're getting paid. It doesn't have to be perfect. Kind of like what the whole series is about. It's something that people can learn and then they can take the edge off. So is there something that you have learned that you can kind of express or share that would then maybe inspire others to take hold of their artistry? Okay. For a long time I was told like that I wouldn't do cruise ships. What an interesting thing to say to somebody. Like when I was at when I was training at musical theatre, like I felt like a lot of these… Teachers or, or, or people that would come in and do like workshops with us. We had like an agent week where we just basically met with a bunch of agents that I didn't want to sign to any of them because they weren't doing any of the work that I was interested in. I wasn't fit for casting or anything, bearing in mind this is also as well, this was back in 2019. And I do think the landscape has changed a lot in six years. Yeah. Like the way that, like, musical theater in the UK anyway, like, operates now is very different to what it was six years ago. But they would say, you know, I would. They would ask like, oh, what's what's the thing you want to do? I'm like, well, I'd love to do like cruise ships. I'd love to do this, that and the 3rd and I would get a lot of like, oh, like rethink that cruise ship thing because you don't have the right height, the right build, the right look. And I'm just like, right. So then when my friend told me .Shout out John, Friend of the pod. John. Yes, friend of the pod. We were doing a job together and he was like, what do you want to do with your year? And this was 2023. And I was like, I don't know, like I'd love to cruise ship, but I'm still in that Like, oh, I don't know if I should.About that because of why I've been told. And he was like, girl, they're doing a virgin call next week. You should go. And I was like, oh, Virgin. I don't I don't really know anything about Virgin .Like, I guess I could. It's an open call. It's not anything. I'm not losing anything from it, right? I got cut after the second round. Mind you, which was the untitled round, OK. And I was like, I got cut. But you know, when they say, oh, we're going to cut you, that doesn't mean you didn't get the job. It just means you've seen enough, right? Yeah, yeah, whatever. They saw enough because I'm sat here now. So, so that that whole thing of like, I literally was told one thing and I proved it wrong. And that is so possible for anything like you can do that with any situation, whether it's like. You're in like a financial struggle, like there's a relationship in your life that's not going well or like even back to like your artistry. Like you feel like people are trying to tell you that the art that you want to do is not, it's not palatable or like there's not a market for this or like it's too abstract, it's too strange. It doesn't suit you.**** all that. Like you can literally do whatever you want. Like you can literally prove; there is nothing more satisfying than proving someone wrong. Yeah. And I just that experience like I always remind myself of like before I go on show or like before we have Scarlet Night or before we have.Umm, Diva, Entitled. I always think like, God, yeah, I really was told once that I wouldn't be here. Now I am crazy because you are so phenomenally talented and like, there's no way there's not like a slight in. For the audio listeners: I'm covering my face because I'm blushing.It's it's definitely not a slight to cruise lines, but like I don't think cruise lines is that deep to be telling people they they won't make it. I think that I will say I do think there is a scenario in which I could potentially audition for another cruise line and not get it, however. I'm not very interested in other cruise ships anyway because Virgin’s where it's at. If you want to do cruise ships, Virgin Voyages is where it's at. I'm telling you, the shows are fun, the pay is great, people are great for the audio listeners, I pointed to Ty. I love… well, you never know people might not be.. They really probably won't watching. We're doing like these we're like doing these hand gestures and like no one can see what we're doing. You're right for the audio listeners, I'm flipping Ty off right now. You know what's crazy for the audio listeners we're inside of my room on the ship. I've never once explained what this is okay, so. Are we underwater? No, we're not. We're above. So OK, so I live down, down below deck 2 and I live in the water because I'm a, I'm a garbage person. You get the free ASMR background like you hear the waves crashing against your walls. Not that's not true. That doesn't happen. Actually you probably have more of a crash because you have that. You have the window like you see it like all the water. Yours are more just like hitting rocks. Oh to have natural sunlight. So lucky. So for the people listening, friends of the pod, friends of the pod. I do have two portholes and it is a luxury within the the experience of working on the ship cause a lot of people just literally don't like a lot of people don't. I have two potholes as well. But not the ones you're thinking of. Oh wow, for the people listening, she just took off all his clothes. And it's showing me his portholes. And for the audio listeners, I just want to let you all know that that is absolutely true. Oh my God, you are literally the 1st guest that has made me realize that we should also cater to the audio listeners and I'm so sorry everybody. It’s so important because like, here's the thing. Here's the beauty of what you're doing right? Yeah, And this is why I think that this project is so great because. It requires both like so many podcasts yes. It's so easy to just like put your headphones on, put it in your pocket and listen to like your favorite podcaster. And I think that's great. Successful. People love a visual. Yeah, they just love a visual so like also when I'm doing, for example, like if I'm like cleaning my cabin, I'm having like a cleaning day or whatever, I'll put a podcast on, but for some reason I would much rather have the visual version on rather than the audio. Even though I'm not watching it, just knowing it. It's strange, but just knowing there's a visual fixation that I can have. But what what's great about this project in particular is that like with the with the other part, so the videos that we've that we've that we did. Yes, that's a required. You have to watch that, that you can't listen to that. Like you can listen to the song. It's a great song, but like you want to see what we're doing, like you want to be able to have that visual. So that's why I think this is so unique and great and one-of-a-kind. Thank you very much. I completely agree to because I think it's fun. It's just another way to express the personality of the guest because like again, it's for people of all styles. Like not everybody on here is going to be amazing, like trained professional dancer and it's fun to just see. I would say it's a bit inspiring too for the people, like I was saying earlier, who think that they can't dance to just see people move and like to put that pressure on, it's like it's it's an hour and some change to make it up and then we just do it. It shows off so much of the people that are in the video. And I completely agree. I love that, but I do also I love that we've thought about our audio listeners. So thank you. Hi audio listeners, hello and hi visual. Hello. Hello everyone. I didn't really take my clothes off. Ty wishes. It is a shame that it didn't happen and I maybe we should do an after hours version of this show. That'll be season 2. Season 2. If I get to catch you again, I'll come to London. Oh my God, yes, the dance itself. So. We worked to a song called Garden of Eden by, of course, Lady Gaga. Does she still go by Lady Gaga or is it just Gaga? It's Lady Gaga, OK, work 'cause sometimes, you know, artists change their names. she didn't drop the lady. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Lady Gaga killing it. What did you say? About the the was it a gear change? What did you say? Yeah, it feels like oh damn, I'm I'm gonna try to remember it too, but it was a really great way to describe it. But the the choreo was that was like..  think on that because it was a really great word that you used because it encapsulates.And and sort of like encompasses the bit of the song we used was the outro because to me that is the best bit of the song. I just imagined them in the studio working on that song and going it's done. But let's, let's see if we can push it. It's a good album. Maybe like acceleration or something. It was, it was, it was basically it was a car. It was some sort of revved up car moment. Like maybe there's like a gear shift situation. Yeah. Something some sort of like metaphor in the way that like a car operates and you're sort of like. Changing gears, you're going as fast as you can until you literally crash. Yeah. Because especially the end, like we really pushed that and then. But then we finish in such a like and we're done and it's like it's not that the end is a crash, it's actually a very composed ending. Like that end position is actually very yeah, and we held that and there's such power in that. I did a project before I left the ship. It was like a mayhem workshop that I did for a studio called Flex Studios. Shout out Flex. Love you guys. Friend of the pod and we did this four or five hour workshop. We filmed a whole. It's like a minute and a half. And I just wanted to revisit that choreography and sort of change a little bit 'cause I wanted to make it special for for you and your podcast. I was leaving gaps and then I was like filling them. And then I just was like, I could leave bits for you to fill in or I just make the whole thing bring it to you. See what you wanted and you were very game to just. Oh, yeah, let me put it on you. And we had a great time. I have to say, truly no Umm, like no gas up, no extra hype. Utterly truthful. I've never had a a session where I've learned choreography in that detail.  Like it might be a little sloppy inside of the video but like getting the details learning the choreography quick. We did that OK I will say this I do sometimes feel a bit insecure teaching cuz I just think “Am I going too quick? Am I even making sense? What are these counts? I'm really sorry let me just listen to this five times in a row because I don't know what my counts are.” but like that's all just my stuff like I know that like actually no, I am actually doing a good job and like I need to just like turn that little negative voice off cuz I am doing well. But we did it in like less than an hour yeah. Like that's, that's quick. Like I'm saying, there was, there was a magic to Shea that helped me understand the dance and like feel it too 'cause like even even watching you start it, I said, you know, I normally learn in a marked way. I'm just gonna really go for it. I'm gonna like learn. And I'm not joking when I say I feel like you helped me understand how I should attack more things going forward like learning it full out trying it full out and there was a moment even where you were like let's mark it and I did it you were like okay okay so yeah so I sort of heard that and I was like OK, I'm going to try and meet you there because that's very useful to know yeah as. As I'm teaching you this thing, this is this is how you take information in in a physical way. So I say, OK, interesting. So then I was like, well, maybe we should do a little mark. I couldn't. For the audio listeners, I'm pointing at this man because he was like going for it. And I was like, wait.No, we're we're we're we're not playing around like there's no need to like go over that bit again because it's you immediately had bits and I was like, yeah, this is this is dope. It all makes sense too. The choreo you put on. It is so good. Listen. I don't ever want to discredit any other videos especially within this entire series but this video is just another one that is so good. You have to see the choreo, it was fun to do, it was fierce to do and honestly I feel like if y'all watch these videos and you learn them like learn this one and send a send a video.It doesn't happen often, but sometimes I think sometimes as well, like there will be routines that are meant to be learned in a studio, right? With the, with the teacher or the instructor or the director, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, there's a real, there's a real power and like special sort of like thing that you get from from going to a class with 50 other people in the room. You're all there to do the same thing like seeing other people do the the you know what I mean? Like style, but I, but I, I love. Classes now are so accessible, like I learn a routine that this voyage just passed and it was so fun to like because I I struggled to learn from video. I feel that sometimes because what happens for me specifically is I'll watch it and then I spent so long trying to figure out the details. I've like flipped it. I've slowed it down. I put it through capcut, you know? And then also when they do groups and it's not the choreographer, you're like, oh, the choreographer does it. Yeah. And like, that's what that's supposed to be. My bad. Let me okay, Because you get so used to doing it one way. If you find find it through someone else's Instagram video and you're like, where's the choreographer? And I gotta see. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is definitely one of those that you can just watch and pick up yourself. Yeah, It's not. I said this at the start. It's not that it was difficult in any way. It's, it's, it's very like, it's very palatable. It's very, it's very like, it makes sense. It sure does. You know what I mean? I didn't really want to do anything that was too well, the, the, the inspiration was like if I were ever lucky enough to choreograph for Lady Gaga like a music video or like I I said, didn't I was like, I imagine like we're on like SNL. Yeah. And it's like she's it's like, once again Lady Gaga. And she does Garden of Eden and she has like.I don't know several backup dancers. What would what would my version of that be? Is what this is. And it's so good. Yeah. Thank you. I can't hype it up enough. It was phenomenal. But also shout out to Paris Gobel. Oh, yeah. Gaga's current choreographer. She's still. Oh, you didn't know that since I did not know that. Oh, so much. Then Paris is doing her big one with Gaga. Yeah, that's a, that's a, that's a good team. That's a good team. Consistent inspiration. Now she's done Coachella, Super Bowls, world tours, backyard bar mitzvahs, probably, you know, she's done it all. Friend of the park. Shout out to Paris. I know she's listening. Everybody, this this episode is going to. This is a good audience. We've got Charli, XCX, Paris Gobel, Lady Gaga. Audio listeners. Audio listeners. Yeah, So many, so many. This is gonna be a piece of media that's talked about for years to come. I think this particular episode. Thank goodness. Let us be glad, and also let us be grateful. Yeah, let's rejoiceify. For everybody, audio listeners, I'm putting a one finger up and Shea now knows what I'm about to do on the count of 3. 1..2..3. “Give me one Margarita and I'll saw off my leg again.” And I just want to say. It's OK, this is interesting and this is may not be even something that you know. So the drag queen I was talking about before Katya that said expectations are premeditated resentments. She also was the one that said give me one marg. His face is just dropped his jaw audio listeners away. His jaws hit the floor. She also was the one that I heard “Give me one Margarita and I'll saw off my leg.” That was the first time I ever had someone say that was from her. And that's kind of what she's also a friend of POD. Yes, she is. Thank you, Katya. She's fantastic. She’s kind of what  drew us together in a way. Did you just hear my knee click? Yeah I did. ****. It did! We really bonded over margaritas and soaring off our legs. And two margaritas I'll and I'll give you some head, but for the audio listeners, that's not happening. No, not currently. That will be the after hours. Yeah, special. And you don't even want to know what happens with three margaritas, but maybe they do? No, we'll, we'll, we'll leave that one to the imagination. That's for us. After hours. Yes, yes, if you want to find out more. Please send me mail? I don't know. OK, so as we kind of this is amazing, let's let's keep going. Oh yeah, is this, this is so good. Are there any new art forms or mediums that you want to explore in the future? Oh my God, that's a great question. I want to, Yeah, I want to. I want to, definitely put more money into my drag. Absolutely. I've I've I've never really like made like a big significant investment in. I've always tried to. I'm not saying that you need money to drag at all, but what I'm saying is that sometimes it's fantastic and such a good thing.To be able to support like a seamstress that makes outfits for drag queens and and put money in their pocket for them to then make you a custom piece. Do you know what I mean? Like I would love to be able to do that. There's some great designers in the UK. And some I have some great friends that make costume. So something like that. Or maybe I do that already. So I already do drag.Umm, very part time. It's not something I really do on the ship. I'll do it once or twice over, like the whole contract, and then when I get home I'll take bookings again. Are you gonna do drag for this pride show, Tune In and find out. I would love to learn BSL, British Sign Language. OK, I would love to do that because it's it's something that one I've wanted to forever. Like it's always something I've wanted to do. It's always something that I've literally put at the bottom of my list because it's just something that I've always gone well. I don't know if like I have the time or like is this something I really need? No, It's something that I think 1 I need, and two I think should be more of a requirement. I think everyone should have a basic level. Do you call it ASL? Yeah. We have American Sign Language. Yeah. So I think whether you're American, British, whatever I think everyone should have a basic understanding and and skill set for sign language. I think it's such a like useful thing. Yeah, to to connect everyone and to connect everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. To think that like.Yeah, I was like, oh, like, yeah, I'd love to learn another language, but actually. To give the deaf community more resources and give them more of umm, make them feel like more included in the conversation. Yeah. I was like thinking on it and I was like, yeah.So how to do that with that? Yes. What's stopping you from doing it? Well, nothing now, beautiful. Nothing now. Because it was something that I was thinking about doing and I didn't really. I was like, I don't know. And then I watched. I watched the new season The new season of Doctor Who's currently airing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Finishes next week. And there's an episode where there's, I forget her name in real life. She's a really great actress and she is deaf in real life and her character was deaf and they used BSL in the episode. and the doctor played by Ncuti Gatwa, he learned sign language for that episode. And I just was like, yeah, if if, if people are learning how to do it for jobs. And movies and whatever, we all don't really have an excuse in real life. We should be learning it and, and I, I learned I learned of very briefly for like 10 minutes I was with somebody and they they had a very basic level and they told me to say my name but for the audio listeners, I'm not gonna do that because I don't remember, but I wanna, I wanna get back into it. I wanna really give it my full attention and you know. So what is next for you in general, this can be more for your art. This is kind of the the final question, if you will. Yes, OK, next for me, we're going to do this contract. We're gonna finish this contract out in flying colors as we have done every contract. I would love to work with Virgin Voyages again. Do it. Do a fourth. Where can the people find you also? So like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you have a separate Instagram for drag? I do. So it's a if you follow me on Instagram at Shea. So it's Shea SHEA and then OCNL, it's like O'Connell, which is like a shorter So if you follow me there, you can look at my bio and it'll have my drag attached. So it's Iamjustmolly, Molly with Y. Do you have like things lined up or I'll be at this place, Come see me do this. Oh, fun no. Not yet, not yet. I've not thought that so you guys all have like a full contract yeah, so we'll finish I finish in ohh fun. I finish in October end of October and then I go to this is not work related. This is just like vacation, go to Paris, doing a solo trip to go and see Lady Gaga live because she was doing all of her UK dates during the contract. I was like please, please, please have some dates before I'm done. And they're all in Europe. So I was like, I'm going to Paris and I secured those tickets to me.Oh, I'm sure. A long time that was a that was that was a battle. So if you're in Paris, hey, actually my friend Andy is a friend of the pod. He's an amazing, amazing choreographer and teacher. I met him before this contract. He came to visit the UK for like 3 weeks and. He's based in Paris, so I'll probably go and take a class or two from him. Fine. Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna come see you and we'll we'll have a we've already been connecting, so that's great. So that's November, December will be like Christmas holidays, that sort of that's sort of vibe. And then 2026, one of these ships, who knows? One of these ships. Another amazing opportunity. Everything will go your way. Yeah, I hope so. I believe that's some. There's some nice things happening in my life right now. Both professionally and personally, yeah, Good. So I'm hoping that those that'll arrive things come to fruition, but we'll see. It's been such a rewarding experience, and I'm so thankful that you're a part of it. Alphie. Everybody, literally everybody who's been a part of this has been incredible. Well, if there's anybody that could be doing this particular format and doing it well and doing it with integrity and tension and just wanting to give people a fun thing to engage with, it's definitely you. Wow, this is the guy. Thank you so much. This is the guy. I love you. I love you too. Yay, truly. Well you know what, I'm Ty Nelson and this has been another amazing episode of.. Oh I almost ruined the whole outro. The way it goes.**** sake. You're great, Ty, and I love you so much. And on that note, thank you so much, Shay. Hey everybody, If you also think I'm great, make sure you follow me @tallglassofty. A huge sincere thank you to Shay for coming on. Thank you for having me a great guest, silly and fierce in the combo. We hope that you found inspiration, which you surely have had to, and the amazing things that Shay has brought to this episode. But we hope that it all leads you to one day finding yourself out on TheDanceFloor .Bye, bye, everybody. Thank you. Bye audio listeners were waving away. Bye, bye, bye audio listeners and also visual listeners and the Friends of the pod and the friends of the pod. Lady Gaga, thank you. Crisp and with a little heart. Love that.