TDF- EP.10~ SARA SINES

This episode we are joined by Sara Sines; A lovely young woman that is an excellent dancer. So much so that I asked her to do a solo as well. We get into another contemporary dance that honestly, I had a great time creating with Sara. This clearly isn't my style, but I do enjoy choreographing within contemporary. Sara makes the dance look great as Sara is another skilled dancer a part of the Untitled cast on the ship. Her personable vibe made the interview smooth as she shares her advice. Make sure you follow Sara and enjoy her growth in the future! 

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Transcript

Hello everybody, welcome back to another episode. I'm your host. Ty, Nelson. I don't even know what episode we're on at this point, but the numbers are in the double digits. And we are joined today by Sara Sines, previous (The) ‘Artist’ now inside of the Untitled Dance Show Party Thing cast. A just excellent movement quality expert. She's not going to believe that in herself, I don't think. But dude, when you see this video, it's.. she's so good. I'm so excited that we got to work together. And this is Sara. Hello, Sara. Hey. Hey, OK, Yeah, who are you? Do I look at you? Either way, you can look at me, you can look at the thing. It's literally we're just chilling and talking. It's like no stress at all, OK. Hey, I'm Sara Sines. I'm at 24. I'm from.It's complicated, but this is a story. I'm from Maryland, originally moved to New York City after college, went to College in New Jersey, but I just moved out of New York so now technically I live in Florida.The wink. Yes, indeed. What's all your background as far as dance and art goes? I grew up doing like competitive dance. So in that world my whole life, literally from like age 8. Yeah, and I hated it. Like when I was a senior in high school, I was like, I hate this. And so went to college, got my BFA in dance and the school that I was at was very like concert modern dance. Like we learned like almost Graham Technique, which is like.Yeah, yeah, I know Graham. Very nice. Four days of ballet, four days of modern a week, 8:00 AM. Yeah, very intense. But it was really fun. I feel like my technique skyrocketed throughout the four years, and I never had ballet until I was 15. Wow. Yeah. Because of the studio I went to, they were bad. It happens. So we danced. We had no ballet. No. Like we couldn't sustain all of the things that we were doing. So then I finally started ballet. And then when going to college it even skyrocketed from there. So it's like, yeah. But now I like, really feel like home in like, the modern contemporary world. I think you asked me another question too, and I forgot it. Artist. Artist- Yes: as the artist, things you've learned that created that path for yourself. Right. Well, I auditioned for to be a dancer and untitled or whatever. I wasn't familiar with Virgin at all and I always put like, you know, special skills on your resume. I put like painting, drawing, 'cause I did a lot of that in high school. I painted a mural my senior year. It's still there, signed it. I painted a mural at my house. So I was like always an artist. At your house, like inside the house outside. No, we have, like, a shed. OK, cool. I live in the woods. Oh, OK. Look at that more, you know, it's like a shed and it's a nice sunset. Yeah. But I never thought I would do art as, like, a job.Yeah, I, I like taught art to kids, but other than that I was like artist. And then you got to teach art to drunk adults, which are basically kids. So very fun. Yeah. She's like, I'm not gonna incriminate myself, but sure, it was good to, like, get back in touch with that 'cause at first I was like, oh, do I take the job? Like, there's not really like a show that I'm gonna be in, like, right. But at that point, like, I had no money. Like I needed a job. It was the first thing that I got from auditioning for a year in New York. So I was like, I should just take it. And it was European summer. Come on. Come on. Ohhhh you went to Barcelona? Yes, yeah, that's correct. That's worth it. And I feel like I got in touch with me as an artist, which is it supports my dance. Oh yeah, and supports you just being a human, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, So met people too. Was very inspired by everyone's circus, dance. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's kind of what kind of inspired this, if you will, because there's so many people on the ship that we can learn from and talk to and whatnot. Kind of less about the background and more of an inspiration. Is there something in your field, whether it be dance or art, that you draw inspiration from? Whether it's like someone in your family or an artist that you look up to, if it's in dance or just in art? Yeah, lots of things. Well, for painting and like drawing, I feel like I always pull from… Uh, nature or like, like physical features? Like eyes, like hair color. I don't know. I'm just, I have very good eyesight. So I see things. I'm like, oh, that's cool. I'm like, yeah. You got 20/20 vision? I think so. I don't know? It’s like “I have great eyesight and I wear glasses. Check it out.” Do you have contacts in right now? No. There you go. That's good. No glasses? Yeah. Ever. Beautiful. Dance wise. I feel like I pull from artists like Doug Varone. He's owner, creator of this company. Dream company that I wanna be in. I actually have a good relationship with him. I did some intensives with his company. And I just, like, I feel like his, like, work is so home to me. Yeah. Immediately when I did it, I was like, “Oh, this is me.” I always am, like, thinking of him whenever I'm, like, choreographing. He also, like, has this whole philosophy about choreographing. It's really cool. I did a workshop with him all about choreography and he has all these like creative ways of getting out of like a writer's block but for dance, There was this one that he drew on a piece of paper and he was like I'm gonna make a pathway out of this like it was it was very cool dance also wise I pull from do you know what ‘Sleep No More’ is? The way that I know it is like a an immersive experience in like New York where you go through and yeah, OK, they tell stories in a way. So they actually just closed. Like when I came back from my contract, I think they closed like, so now the only place that does the show is Shanghai. Oh wow. Which I want to go and like, I want to do the show. Yeah, 'cause that would be. That was like a dream of mine. And then they closed and I was like… wahhh. Yeah, but I like, was so inspired. I saw the show like 5 times 'cause I had a professor in the show and she would get us tickets. It's like you go through rooms? Am I crazy? So it's five floors. That's what it is. And it's all like, I don't even know what time period, but it's like.. It just feels real and it's immersive. So it's like, it's not like a show. Hey, we're dancing. It's like a it just is there. See, I didn't even know there was. There was dance involved to my knowledge. It was almost like a escape room esque thing. Somebody misinformed me. Yeah, yeah, it's all dance, acting, but there's no speaking. Ohhhh that makes so much sense.There’s noises but there's not like a dialogue. “And now I'm doing a monologue.” Is that a ghost in there? “Ahhh” Yeah, I like that. Feel like I take a lot of attributes of those characters into my life. OK, Work. There was a dance company or something that you were telling me about when we did the dance. Were you like, I'll show you later. Is that the same as Doug? Doug Veron? Yeah. OK. Nice. Doug Varon and dancers. But everyone calls it DOVA Dova. OK, well, Doug is a friend of the podcast. Doug, thanks for watching and we hope that you give Sara a job very soon. Please. One of your I know one of your dancers is leaving. I would like to replace them. See look, I don't know when this will actually come out, probably in like July. So if that spot still open, call set. Look at the video. This is the audition tape. Just watch her do her thing. What is the advice or even besides Doug, but other advice that you've been given that really resonates with you, Maybe something that you tell yourself all the time or you remind yourself of? When you're in a college BFA program. It's very.Like I'm, I was such a sponge, like everything was new information. So I was always like hanging on to every word that they were saying 'cause they just had so much knowledge and they were great honestly. I went to school with Meghan. Is she in this podcast? She's gonna be very soon. Coming soon.Yes, yeah. But we went to school together and.Yeah.That's OK. We went to the same, you went to the same school and the advice at that school, yes, was….. Was there's lots of advice, there wasn't lots of advice, Yes, yes, I would say like the things that really stuck with me was just like being yourself. Honestly, that's the key to being successful in the industry is just literally, it sounds so stupid. It's a very common theme though. Yeah, it matters because I think what you have to do is find yourself first before you can then offer it to other companies and things like that. Yeah. And like, for me personally, when I first started auditioning in LA, got out of high school, went straight there, and it was like I was just a dancer. I wasn't Ty Nelson, you know? So it does matter to be yourself. As cliche as that might sound. That's still very sound advice. That's good advice. And I feel like even in, like, the New York scene, like. They really do promote that. Like, I'm not sure about LA. Mean, I've heard stories, but yeah, I feel like everyone there is so OK, There are some people that aren’t… But usually there's, like, everyone's so unique. They have their own style, their own, like, they're just cool. They're just cool as ****. Can we cuss on here? Yeah, cool as ****. There you go. But yeah, being yourself. A quote that one of my best friends told me college and I quote him all the time and I'll never forget it. “Be yourself. Everyone else is already taken.” Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. And I tell everyone that and they're like Oh my God. Yeah. And also, as hard as it may seem to be yourself, no one can be you. Whether, whether even it's like I'm an average thing, I'm an average dancer, I'm an average artist, you're still you can be the best. Like in that section. Like I think people get so scared of I need to be the best at whatever. You can be your own thing and it not be considered the best and it be something that everybody wants to see. You know, like, yeah, it doesn't have to always be perfect or the top notch, whatever, as long as you get to be true to who you are. And if you learn how to be yourself, you might end up doing something crazy. Like this podcast for me came out of nowhere. Like I've always been kind of a host and whatnot. But if you do more things for yourself, I think you'll find what calls you. And then you'll find the people that you want to be around, like the lovely humans that have been on this podcast. Like when I first started, nobody understood. They were like, what is he doing? Actually, that was me. I'm like, so wait, what is this? Yeah. And it's totally. It's totally fine. And natural for that, but then it's like once you get it going, we now have all these people that have been a part of the project and other people here and they're like, hey, that sounds cool, let's get a part of that. So, yeah, just be yourself. That's great advice, Sara, thank you. What's the most valuable lesson you've learned from collaborating with others in your field? That’s a good question. Two things, “Yes. And…” everything right And also like be really patient. 'Cause I yeah. I feel like I've learned patience throughout my life. What am I trying to say? I feel like I used to be very impatient. Yeah, OK. But then I started to become more patient, especially living living with my grandma. I started to learn patience. So because we would buttheads, we have the same birthday. So we're Libra. Fire. OK. Air. Whatever. Earth. Wind. Fire. Air. Wind. Fire. Whatever the hex girls we are. No. Yeah. Patience. Because I can get very like. Oh my God. We're going back again. Where is this going? I don't know. Yeah. Not that I felt that with you. Oh yeah, I know that. I was gonna say it honestly flowed really easily when we were doing the creation, even though that's not my style. It was so easy to work with you cuz you would be accepting of ideas and I would as well. So yeah, I was gonna say that actually it's clear within. You might not see it obviously in the dance itself, but it was clear in the creation process that those two things are apparent. yeah, you know, patients and “Yes. and...”  you gotta “Yes. And…” because anything can work, yeah, in a way, you know, it might change and look different, but it's still like the core idea might be from someone else. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Sometimes you also got to do it to then see that it doesn't work. Because if you just don't do it, then it's like, well, what if it was the coolest part of the dance, Right? And also, I don't wanna invalidate anyone in the collaborative process. Like,”Oh no, I don't like that.” I like it. Let's see if it works. If it feels weird, how can we still incorporate it? Yeah. So it's still collaborative and not just like me being like, “I don't like that.” Yes, ma'am. Look at that. Come on now, Sara. Speaking of collaboration, our dance collab, this is a style that I'm not necessarily.The two I'm familiar with it, but I'm not too formally trained in and as soon as Sara did like the first move, I said, oh, we're moving, we're moving quick. OK, yes, Sara has a unique episode because she's gonna have, coupled with the one that we do together, a solo video, which I didn't do for everybody. And it's not to say that everyone doesn't deserve a solo, but I was like, I'm just not meeting Sara in this moment. Like though we created it together, the movement quality, which you will see, Sara just embodies it and you do such a good job. Like seriously. And I think I've even shown it to Meghan, and that was like a word she said. She was like, the movement quality is crazy. I was like, I know it's so good. So what was the song that we actually ended up choosing? And what made you choose that song? Right. I think it's called Carnival of the Animals. Question mark, Don't know who the artist is, it's from Swan Lake. I really love Swan Lake's music. I just love that classical. Is it violin?I think it's more yeah, something sobo cello something. Yeah, someone of them viola. Viola. No, I just have always loved the song. And actually, I remember when I was in college and I was choreographing my senior thesis project. So, back story, for the project, we would audition the underclassmen and then we would cast them in a piece. So I think I had I might have had eight. I think. Had to put a dance on eight people? Yes, that's crazy. We had Costumes, lighting everything like you had to buy your own costumes. We raise money like to buy the stuff. Oh, so they don't really teaching you business for real? Yeah, they were. And we did like a photo shoot to promote it like business, not business cards, postcards to like handout flyers, Eventbrite tickets. OK, on the whole 9 yards. And then everybody did it unless you like opted to do a solo. But you couldn't choreograph your own solo. It had to be someone else like a professional choreographer. OK, that was the gag alright. The gag yeah I'll tell you what that does sound like the gag cuz that's kinda silly but all right. I think it makes sense cuz I feel like everyone would just be like “I'm gonna do my own solo.” yeah but yeah they would take that as the alternative. Probably did that and I was like I would always choreograph on my break in the lobby. So the lobby was like a place we all hung out in. So I'd have my headphones and I would choreograph preparing for the rehearsal later that day 'cause I love to procrastinate, but it's alright. You know what? Some of the best work comes from there. It doesn’t work for me if I like plan ahead, I don't know why. Yeah, that's just a style. I think procrastination gets a bad Rep because people think that it's lazy. I've actually been going through some like life coaching and one of the best things he describes is the fact that it is just a style. It's the way that you put the pressure on yourself as long as you're not doing it to a detriment, like you're not getting the best of your work, but. Procrastination gets a lot of bad Rep and sometimes it's the best way for people to get done what I've learned and maybe you can try this, instead of procrastinating to the end. You do give yourself like 2 hours and you say I'm going to get it done in this two hours and whatever happens happens and then maybe revisit it. Which kind of is where the projects kind of sort of idea for like the hour and a half or so to choreograph comes from. But yeah, procrastination ain't, it Ain't that bad. It gets a bad Rep, but it's just a style of.Yeah, of execution. And sometimes it works really good. So yeah, I would always like procrastinate. I don't even like that word. I would always wait till the day of to choreograph 'cause that's just like you like the pressure. I like the pressure, handles pressure well, Yeah. And also like I could never do it at home. I always had to do it like at the studios or in the lobby, like for some reason I just like, that's just how my brain was flowing. And they taught us this in school 'cause we had choreography classes. Yeah. So if you were like feeling like you were very heavy on a heavily choreographing to a song. Switch the song and do the same choreo just to see like what happens. That's fun. And so I just started playing. I was in my classical era.I was just started playing that song and I remember doing the my thesis choreo to that song and I was like, wait, this is on fire. Do I change my song? Okay, But I never ended up changing it to that. So I've always like had a love for that song. Well, thank you for bringing it to the actual podcast. I've always wanted to do it. It was really fun. It was also easy to kind of create to it's, it's a it's an interesting song because we weren't really hitting like a one man, two and three. It was just, yeah, we had a very just musicality driven choreography session. Like I'd be like, OK, that looks good. I'm gonna let you do it and then I'll match it. Like I'll find the speed or whatever, but sometimes I'm one of them people. I can't do counts. Like I can't teach it. Bing bap boom bap bap. That's me. And those are counts. Technically, you know, technically what's your favorite? What's your go to sound? I'd be like, I'm like “Ka-Kat” yeah, it's always the it's always the “Gah gah.” It’s always the GAH. Which by the way, again, with this collaboration, you need to watch the video and see Sara do her thing because she is phenomenal. Can you describe a time when your art helped you process or express a difficult emotion? It almost goes to what you're saying where if you're feeling heavy, you change the choreography. So is there a time where your art, could be painting, could be the dancing, helped you process that emotion? Yes and also no. Okay, yeah, I don't know. Sometimes like I know dancers who are like “I'm so emotional, like I need to go improv.” and that's just never me, OK. Like I never do that. I don't know why. Just like doesn't work for me. It almost makes me feel worse. I really like to watch other people's art. Like when I'm like, I remember when my grandma passed away like a year ago. I just liked being around people and like hearing stories about her or like watching performances or just like being around people because people are art. Yeah, absolutely. Like to be deep or whatever. Yeah. For the audio listeners she's putting her hair behind her ear. You know the, you know what it looks like. So yeah, I feel like just art is like humanity. So being around that really helped me. I remember also like for we had her funeral and then like later that day I went to like a street festival, OK, and I bought a ring and it was Opal because we have the same birthday, October. So then I don't know. I just like that was very healing for me. I don't really like to dance when I'm sad. OK, interesting. Or angry. I'm. I'm kind of the difference on that. Sometimes I get some of my best work when I'm feeling those emotions. Yeah. So everybody's different, you know, it's not like it's a cut and dry. I do like to listen to music. Yeah, when I'm going through it or.. But not necessarily like create, but yeah, not really create. There was a time where I was like going through a breakup and I was doing live life colorfully. No, for those that wanna know what that is, it's a part of the ship itinerary where people can just come up and color a giant mural. And that genuinely forces ‘The Artist’ to just kind of be there like.It's fun because you get to interact with them and talk to them, but it's a very much sit and chill moment for ‘The Artist.’ So that would have been hard to process emotionally. Yes, I was drawing on a sketchbook that I had and I drew this wonderful eye and it was a sad eye with a tear. And I was like, this is so sad. Were the sailors like “Hey, are you OK over there?” They were like, “This is amazing.” And I'm like, “Thanks.” It's how I feel inside I mean, and I left it on the ship. I know I need to get it back. That's what that was yours? I'm just kidding, obviously I never…. I was like, wait, damn, I remember throwing that away. How did it get to Valiant?. Yeah, wow. Right, 'cause that was Scarlet, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I left the whole book. All right. Whoever is on Scarlet, Sara demands her sketchbook. Give me my sketchbook! Yeah, we demand it. Was it one of those, like, classic yellow ones with the weird stuff on the front? Do you remember what it looks like? I think it was like green. Green, so everybody listening to the podcast, if you ever get on Scarlet Lady, scour the ship, go into the crew areas. We're giving you permission right now to just go through everywhere until we find this for Sara. Just wear a closed toed shoes on the A1A. You'll be fine. No one will notice. Yeah, at least we're getting the safety first over here. Safety first-errs. well Sara, I want to know where can people find you what's your Instagram do you have an art Instagram like and what is next for you so that people besides Doug hiring you obviously. Doug please. Yeah so I have a photography Instagram. Work! Yeah I'm a photographer. I haven't really touched it in a while just because I used to have so many people that wanted to like do photos, but then yeah, that kind of like dwindled and I was OK with it. I brought my camera on the my last contract on the ship. I did not touch it once it had dust on it like so I'm kind of taking a break. But that was ‘Happenings’. That was a ‘Happenings’ that was more difficult timewise. Yeaaahhh. I could have brought it this time I’m realizing. Well you didn't really know? Yeah. I didn’t know. Yeah. Are your family gonna come on? They can maybe bring it. They could. There you go. Family, if you're watching, send it to me. Do you have a date that their coming? August. So far. This might be available. Maybe they could ship it. Yeah. I mean, you could also just message them. It's like if they didn't see this episode. We’re sending out an SOS. Yeah. But yeah. Photography Instagram. It's Sara. @ Sara Sines Photography. And I have a website too, so if you want to look at my stuff there's also like a connect or contact section where you can like send me an e-mail. Come on business. Shameless self promo. Yeah, and that's what it's all about. And then Instagram is Sara a sines. I need to post more like dance stuff. Well, now you got time. I do a lot of photo dumps, so if you're not into that, don't follow me. Well, and once this comes out, you can post the solo honestly. Feel free to redo this dance again and film it yourself and like, you know, but not until it comes out, not until July, August, potentially somewhere in there, who knows? October, after I October, December, January next year. But after I get off the ship, it'll be what, November? October, November. Yeah, Yeah. So I think there's many plans in my head, but because I don't live in New York anymore and I don't really want to get another apartment. I currently have all of my like belongings at my grandparents house in Connecticut so I'm thinking of going there. Umm, I'm thinking of popping into the Virgin Voyages audition again. OK, they love to make us re audition. They sure do. We love you guys Virgin. Love you so much for it. Even though you saw me on the ship with your own two eyes casting team. Hey, no shame, no shade. It's just an interesting way to hire people. No, I understand, Like the the intention. Yeah. Because also sometimes what I think the direction of it is is maybe people get complacent and they want to keep you on your toes. They also want to see how you've evolved. Yeah. And honestly, sometimes just the vision for what they want is like entertainment changes. They wanna see you In the room with bodies, like they're like, “oh, I want to hire this person, but how do they dance next to this person that I have on the” you know, I get it. And like it shows that you are committed. That part too. Yeah, that part too. Cuz I know some people can just be like, “Well, I'm not going.” You know, and that's so valid 'cause like, I also sometimes feel like that. But then they explained it really well in Orlando. They were just like, you know, we wanna know that you're committed and that you, like, are committed to the company. And, like, I get it. I get it. It doesn't hurt to just show up. Yeah, sidebar for me maybe gets me in trouble. I might even take it out of the episode. But the commitment was the six months that I put on the ship, right? That's just coming from me personally. But again, love this job. I've been here for like 5 years. So, you know, I feel like I, I can poke at it a little bit more than other people. You’ve been here longer than me. I've already been here for a year. I actually did like a roast of the company in front of the entire company. At the request of Richard Kilman. Oh, OK. Yeah. So I can poke a little bit because also they know that I genuinely love it here. I'm here all the time. But yeah, very fun. I might pop over to that. It's like November 17th or something like that, Same time as last year. Go again. And then I'm thinking of staying and auditioning for. This is like giving me stress thinking about it. Don't even worry about it, but it's I want to audition for the Broadway shows that are looking for summer replacements and also the national tours. Work. But it's really I said I was just because I'm Non-Equi, so it's very, if you're familiar with that, It's very difficult to be seen for those auditions if you're non union. So there's like a whole drama with it right now of like, so people used to stand outside at 4:30 in the morning and sign their name up. And I was one of those people. And I did that once, and I said, I'm never doing this again. Yeah. Yeah. For Cabaret before it hit Broadway because I love the show. And I was like, new to New York. And I was like, this is what you have to do. And then I showed up at 5 AM got seen. But at 5:00 PM. Damn, and I did not get to go home the whole day 'cause they were like, 
We'll see you, we'll see you in 30 minutes, OK. Come back after lunch.” OK, I'm back after lunch. They're like “We, we don't know if we're gonna see you. We don't know.” I was like, “Should I leave?” So you know what? Hey, Virgin, just the one audition. I'm alright to show them that I’m committed there. I don't need to say for 12 hours won't work. So now they they started this thing where like, because it's very unsafe to be in New York during that time. Oh my God, yeah. I remember leaving. I lived like Uptown and I remember leaving at like 4:00 to get to this ******* audition. And there were people screaming. There was like some group, ominous group in the corner over here. And I was like, am I gonna die on the way to this? You literally don't know in New York. And people are like, it's just like there's no police out at that time. There's like nobody on the subway. So it's like just… It's bad. And then the area that the audition is in is there's a lot of drug users, a lot of homeless people who like to, like, **** with you. Like, yeah, so it's not safe, but they started doing this thing where they didn't allow people to come at that time, which was great, but now it's like starting a whole thing. People are very competitive. It's like a whole thing and I hate it. But I've been told by like multiple people like you need to audition for Broadway, like you need to. And I was like, “I know I want to. I was just like, I don't really understand how to do it.” and it's like it's really, like, stressful and confusing and like, I feel like it's not worth it, but I do want to, like, just go and try. Absolutely. You have to practice singing in front of people. I'm a singer. And a singer. Come on now. But I'm very shy, so yeah, Well, you have the skill set, so.It's only a matter of time. Actually just interviewed Sammy recently and that was one of his big takeaways was like persistence, like no matter what it is, if you will it into existence, you can just try and try and try and go for it even though there might be difficult.Stipulations against trying to get it. I think with the talent you have and keeping the persistence of it, you'll get it eventually. And my friends have gotten callbacks and stuff from being non union. It's just like, will I be seen today or will I not be seen today? That's the gag. And that's when you start filming it for Tiktok or something, right? No, there's a lot of people like that. It's great. I love to watch their videos. Like I'm living through you. But yeah. And then after that, I'm going to Italy for three months to do a contemporary dance program. Fire. Yeah, Love that. Yeah, I auditioned and then I got in. And you do pay for it, but it's, like, pretty cheap. Umm, so I'm trying to figure out right now, like housing, 'cause there are places, Italy people, my Italian viewers and listeners, the Pope. Did you say The Pope? Hey, Pope. He's actually a friend of the podcast Ergo from Shea. So Pope, I'm serious. Wow. What a What? A connection. What a connection. That's insane. Yeah, but I'm trying to find housing. I wanna try somewhere cheap. And yeah, it's gonna be really fun. It's very weird. I don't want to say weird. That's mean. Weird. Yeah. It's Gaga for anybody that not Lady Gaga. Gaga. Like, do you know Batcheva? That company? In Israel. It's like very like, like very weird. Oh, she just turned into a transformer for those that are just in the audio. I don't know if that came through all the way. Yeah, look at it. We'll watch after this. But it's really, it's so good and I would love to be just go see what contemporary communities are in Europe because I love Europe. Work. Yeah. Well, you have a talent. You're a fun person, and I'm really glad that you were part of this. So everybody, once again, thank you for joining in for another episode. I am your host, Ty Nelson. This is Sara Sines. You can find her at once @ Saraasines. Yep. Yeah. Check out the video. Also check out the solo from her. And just keep up with Sara. She's gonna be just another great talent that comes out of this, I'm sure. Sara, we're gonna do an outro where we both say the dance floor in unison. OK, I'm gonna lead you in, and I know that you're gonna know when. Here we go. As always, thanks for joining Sailors. Oh, we're not on. No. Oh, no, you're not sailors. I did that one other time in another episode. Thanks for joining. I'm your host, Ty Nelson. We want to give a huge thank you to Sara for coming in and just, you know, having fun with this is another great piece of the whole puzzle, if you will. And we hope that you find inspiration within this episode and in the dance. And no matter what, maybe one day it'll lead you on TheDanceFLoor Bye everybody. Thank you, beautiful.Oh my God it's so small. I love that, especially in comparison to the others. That's so cute.